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Title: Wonderful Noise

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Translation: Postyism, Fastdive Chronology and correction: Fastdive

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This video is for communication and learning purposes only, and is not for commercial use.

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WeChat public number: repair cover

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After his first performance on television

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Qualified by some as the most controversial band since the Sex Pistols.

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We are in the Cocteau twins' studio.

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Sit back and enjoy the noise.

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The precedent was set by My bloody Valentine.

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Jesus and Mary Chain

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The Cocteau wave is here and guess who they are.

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Columbus Street at 7:30 tonight.

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You may see an unknown group.

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We're watching the Cocteau Twins on stage.

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Considered one of the best bands in England

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Critics even say that they will influence the entire mainstream of rock music.

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But, to be fair, they have become darlings of the underground.

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Cocteau Twins- The sequin maker

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By pure chance.

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I'm not doing anything on purpose.

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That is the style of music you have created.

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Give the listener plenty of room to think

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It's interactive.

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You put something in the music.

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It will get you to focus more on it.

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At the end you hear some emotion.

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Everyone feels differently.

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These kinds of things are quite abstract.

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And especially valuable.

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Cocteau Twins - The Sequin Maker

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I'm a big fan of Cocteau Twins.

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There are two reasons, the first is

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By the sound of Robin Guthrie's guitar.

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I had never heard anything like it.

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Guitars that make a difference

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Unique to the Cocteau Twins.

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And, of course, vocalist Elizabeth has a very characteristic vocal range.

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She has always been one of my favorite singers.

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It has an amazing charm.

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You don't know why.

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I don't think he knows.

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That's what makes it so spiritual.

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He is also aware of the talent he possesses

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Cocteau Twins- Song of the Mermaid

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I never wanted to be a musician.

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But when I first heard this music

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It really resonates with me.

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These songs inspire me.

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It's like falling in love.

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When you love someone.

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You feel like it.

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I wanted to be with her.

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That's more or less what it feels like.

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Incredibly catchy.

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It's like nothing I've ever heard before.

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This is a great learning opportunity

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Go find out how they make their background sound effects

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They have a voice, but they probably wrote the lyrics blindly.

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Well, I think it's a good idea.

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My first time listening to the Cocteau Twins.

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It's at a club called Medusas in Chicago.

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He had a great influence on Chicago music during the 90s.

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Because the Ministry will play there.

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Then I met the band New Order and so on.

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I remember thinking all the time.

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This is very rare. I had never heard music like that.

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I have fallen in love with the sound

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Including Elizabeth's voice and Robin's guitar.

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Both go hand in hand.

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I've always wondered.

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How do they make it sound so natural?

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That's what attracted me the most.

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This is how I felt the first time I heard it

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I only describe it in a certain way.

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It could be music theory or any other theory

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But it's really wonderful.

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And then you find yourself slowly falling deeper and deeper into it.

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I also play some of their songs.

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You know when you get to a certain point

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You want to listen to the same album over and over again.

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However, I can play most of the songs on the Treasure album.

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But I would never dare to say that I have learned.

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I just know.

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When I'm not acting as an amateur.

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I only play their songs for fun, like I'm getting married in a tuxedo.

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Because it's the most romantic sound I've ever heard.

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Cocteau Twins- Lorelei

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We were young when we started the band.

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Through the first bassist

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I met the lead singer when I was a student.

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Making the Garland album.

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I was about 17 or 19 years old.

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We were very young and very naive.

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We are going to make a demo and release an album.

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We actually only recorded it twice.

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Because we can't even copy a tape.

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And hop on a night bus to London.

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Take a tape to 4AD.

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The other tape was taken to the BBC and delivered to John Peels' office.

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Then back to Scotland to wait for a response

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We knew it would be through

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Because we believe we are the best.

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The record company should be glad we picked it up

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I haven't had any news for a year.

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I realized that it was not as easy as I thought.

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It's all due to naivety.

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without the slightest idea of what it is to think

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How great and different your song is.

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Robin, they came to London to see the birthday party.

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They are silent fans of offstage birthday parties.

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I didn't want to pass by.

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Robin gave me a tape.

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This is the first time I've heard of the Cocteau Twins, oddly enough.

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You barely hear anything.

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A voice with reverb.

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Hidden behind a naturally compressed guitar sound

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I would love to and then I would invite them to come to London to record some songs.

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They came to my house and we went to the studio.

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They connected the cables and started playing and singing.

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It's a pleasant surprise. It's the icing on the cake.

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I was intrigued by the vigor and melody that the

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But I can't describe the song.

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It's the icing on the cake.

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Why do so many people love you?

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Because we are better than the others.

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Their songs are garbage.

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Makes you want to fall asleep. It's rubbish.

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JAMC - Never Understand

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You can still see people like Nancy Sinatra

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The old-fashioned star who sings and dances in front of the stage with the band behind him.

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Is this the kind of music we want to make?

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For us it is about putting a

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The attitude of the "fuck" musical style.

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People will be happy to support us.

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Reexamining the norms of rock 'n' roll.

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So we make the most of what we have.

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When I started fooling around with Jim.

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William continues doing his own things.

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And then Jim wrote a couple of songs, "Upside Down," "Never Understand."

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Just when we were about to start looking for people to join us

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Jim said William was going to be a headliner, and then he brought in a couple of songs.

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It wasn't long before we were up and running.

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At first, William and I didn't want to be the lead singer.

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And then he sang because he is a little better than me on the guitar (^_^)

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It just has some big cross chords.

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And we have a show around the corner.

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So we have to assign one person to sing and another to play the piano.

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Find a way to play a club in Glasgow.

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That Shaggy doesn't want to talk to us, Mary Jane.

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But it turns out he knew Bobby Gillespie (our drummer).

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He said he could introduce us to Syd Barrett if we wanted.

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And then Bobby listens to us at the table.

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He wrote our address and phone number on a piece of paper.

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And that's how I met this furry McGee.

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He wants me to send him some samples.

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But that's all for later.

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Douglas Hart and I have known each other for a long time.

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I still played punk rock.

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I introduced myself to the drums.

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I think this band is great.

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I know they need a platform.

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One time we were auditioning and we became more and more manic.

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I started yelling and screaming, and then McGee came in.

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We've never seen this guy before.

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He looked at the two weirdos in front of him.

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couple made for each other

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The guitar is plugged into the amplifier and is starting to get irritated.

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I don't know if it's called free jazz or what.

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Instead, he thought it was cool and walked up to us and said.

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"It's amazing. I'm going to release three albums for you!"

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What the hell is this guy doing here?

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They joined Creation in the first place because

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So we wanted to try some punk.

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To be honest, it's not too complicated.

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And I didn't realize that Creation had been at this for 17 years.

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JAMC- Just like honey

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I'm excited for us.

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Because we are three weirdos.

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He doesn't know anyone.

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No background, no connections.

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Even in Glasgow.

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We are not very popular either.

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So I don't have many concerts.

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And then funny Bobby joined us.

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And then take us to the London exhibition.

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Despite the reduced capacity

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But we are happy and excited.

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We were having fun.

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Now it's finally a band.

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JAMG - Like honey

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I remember Douglas, who was 18 at the time, telling me.

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We are going to be Germans.

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Let's be the Beatles, in black German leather.

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Become a rock star. Ha ha ha.

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I couldn't believe it later when Upside Down came out

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People will go crazy for us.

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They say JAMC is a new genre.

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We won't be able to find a gig or a producer if we leave London.

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What's surprising is the uproar our show caused.

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He's always on camera.

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The secret of JAMC guitar is in William

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A perfect match for Jim.

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I just help them put the microphone in front of the speakers.

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And then I just give advice.

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When William put his Gretsch guitar on his back.

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Connect the Shin-Ei effector.

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Then press the E chord.

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Here Marry Chain.

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Nobody can play the E chord like William.

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He's had that FUZZ monoblock for a long time.

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It was broken and sold for £10.

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It's that one piece that buys a guitar.

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William is a guitar genius.

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He likes to be in every syllable of every song

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Add a touch of free jazz

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However, they are all basic sounds.

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But it will continue to change.

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He is a freestyle guitarist. A freestyle guitarist.

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He probably doesn't like me talking about him like that.

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But he looks like John Coltrane.

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Explore music freely Imagine music

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Jim has incredible leadership qualities.

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Although he refuses to admit it.

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William is probably the band's main inspiration.

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Even Kevin Shields.

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Also take an example from the Marry chain.

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But William Reid later chose to go solo.

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JAMC- In a hole

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It is difficult to imagine the anger they caused.

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People go crazy for him. The media goes crazy for him.

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It's like the end of the world.

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They are improving.

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It's a year of shows.

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I think psychocandy has been one of the best albums of all time

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There is considerable influence

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Everything comes to life after its launch.

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Because once people hear it

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He seems to remember Dinosaur Jr.

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and group them

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I love that album. I hear it over and over again.

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And finally I was there in person.

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It was then that the band was immortalized in my memory.

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I remember when Psychocandy came out.

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It gave me the idea to do

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The idea of an unrecognized voice

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I didn't do that.

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But I want that fuzzy sound.

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That's the sound of psychocandy.

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But you can't stay the same.

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I don't think a band can always stay the same.

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They didn't either, so they added other things...

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After Psychocandy

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We could be a little

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ashamed and completely lost

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Many people say that you have not maintained your style.

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Many people have been talking about our noise, violence, riots

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Actually, they should focus more on the songs themselves

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So we made a purely musical album.

259
00:20:45,057 --> 00:20:47,136
Because the noise has disappeared.

260
00:20:48,217 --> 00:20:52,496
The album is full of great songs.

261
00:20:53,297 --> 00:20:54,816
In the early eighties

262
00:20:54,817 --> 00:20:58,376
They make wonderful noises.

263
00:20:58,457 --> 00:21:00,136
And then it gets better and better. I like it.

264
00:21:00,217 --> 00:21:03,216
Stoned and Dethroned, Honey's Dead, Munki, those albums.

265
00:21:03,297 --> 00:21:09,776
Hate Rock N Roll is probably one of the best rock songs of all time.

266
00:21:09,857 --> 00:21:14,016
William Ried sings disdainfully: "I hate rock 'n' roll."

267
00:21:14,177 --> 00:21:17,536
You can tell from what he said before.

268
00:21:17,817 --> 00:21:20,856
It is said that you in the hemisphere are

269
00:21:20,937 --> 00:21:24,776
The best bands are also the worst.

270
00:21:24,817 --> 00:21:28,896
What is your answer?

271
00:21:34,537 --> 00:21:37,136
My favorite color is gold.

272
00:21:41,537 --> 00:21:45,656
We used to be in East Kilbride.

273
00:21:45,657 --> 00:21:46,936
lit. conceal the light and nourish in the darkness (idiom); Hide your own strength and wait for the right moment

274
00:21:46,937 --> 00:21:49,816
But the name is unknown.

275
00:21:49,817 --> 00:21:52,096
John Peel. He is a radio DJ.

276
00:21:52,217 --> 00:21:55,816
And then there was the Peel special.

277
00:21:56,897 --> 00:22:00,056
These things happen.

278
00:22:00,457 --> 00:22:03,696
It's been a big help to a lot of bands.

279
00:22:03,817 --> 00:22:06,896
The reason I do this is because some people have asked me about it.

280
00:22:07,017 --> 00:22:10,016
Why do you play these trash songs?

281
00:22:10,137 --> 00:22:12,016
Nobody likes a bad song.

282
00:22:12,177 --> 00:22:14,696
There have been some bands that have been Richard Skinner, the announcer.

283
00:22:14,817 --> 00:22:17,656
I told the story for ten or twelve years.

284
00:22:17,777 --> 00:22:20,216
For example: "The story of MBV I, chapter 12".

285
00:22:20,297 --> 00:22:21,656
"Difficult times."

286
00:22:21,737 --> 00:22:23,016
A cliché

287
00:22:23,137 --> 00:22:25,656
That's why I don't do these boring shows

288
00:22:25,817 --> 00:22:28,056
A series that tells the story of the band

289
00:22:28,217 --> 00:22:29,736
Because no one wants to hear it.

290
00:22:29,857 --> 00:22:32,176
Pink Floyd, those old bands.

291
00:22:32,297 --> 00:22:34,176
I don't even want to do this.

292
00:22:38,017 --> 00:22:40,416
What do you mean with your music?

293
00:22:42,417 --> 00:22:45,976
I don't know. I try to say many things.

294
00:22:46,137 --> 00:22:47,936
And what emotions are you trying to express?

295
00:22:50,857 --> 00:22:54,496
personal confusion

296
00:22:54,617 --> 00:23:02,856
My Bloody Valentine Only superficial

297
00:23:09,417 --> 00:23:11,536
When we started Glider.

298
00:23:13,097 --> 00:23:15,456
*I can't hear you clearly*

299
00:23:15,497 --> 00:23:18,096
My Bloody Valentine said.

300
00:23:18,137 --> 00:23:20,936
We were laughing because it sounded so funny.

301
00:23:20,977 --> 00:23:24,656
He said he wanted to go abroad and make a career.

302
00:23:24,697 --> 00:23:27,496
I'd say it's a good idea. Sounds good.

303
00:23:27,497 --> 00:23:29,296
So in six months.

304
00:23:29,337 --> 00:23:30,656
We abandon our homes.

305
00:23:30,697 --> 00:23:33,696
By then you will be ready to pay the rent.

306
00:23:35,257 --> 00:23:41,136
My ex-girlfriend was the singer of a group from Berlin.

307
00:23:41,297 --> 00:23:44,016
MBV was first established in Ireland

308
00:23:44,076 --> 00:23:46,635
Then to Holland and then to Berlin.

309
00:23:46,796 --> 00:23:48,915
They asked me about my girlfriend.

310
00:23:49,036 --> 00:23:51,595
Is there a bass player in London I can introduce you to?

311
00:23:51,676 --> 00:23:53,755
He said yes and found me.

312
00:23:53,836 --> 00:23:55,955
And yet they didn't tell me.

313
00:23:56,076 --> 00:23:58,915
They interviewed another woman on the team, Blinda.

314
00:23:59,036 --> 00:24:02,515
Are you going to introduce me to another girlfriend?

315
00:24:02,596 --> 00:24:06,115
After a while, you like to play with them.

316
00:24:06,276 --> 00:24:08,395
I have always loved them.

317
00:24:08,516 --> 00:24:29,595
*I can't hear you, but Douglas Hart became a director, he made music videos for MBV*

318
00:24:30,036 --> 00:24:32,155
They seem to be

319
00:24:32,276 --> 00:24:36,795
Make a lot of guitar noise

320
00:24:36,916 --> 00:24:41,075
CFLAMINU LI
More lightness and beauty

321
00:24:41,196 --> 00:24:44,755
Many people can't make that wonderful noise

322
00:24:44,876 --> 00:24:47,835
It's the volume. You make it loud enough.

323
00:24:47,996 --> 00:24:52,435
The noise becomes blurry.

324
00:24:52,596 --> 00:24:54,795
and then you feel

325
00:24:54,956 --> 00:24:58,595
I heard a strange chorus that I had never heard before.

326
00:24:58,796 --> 00:25:04,075
My Bloody Valentine- You Made Me Realize

327
00:25:11,596 --> 00:25:13,955
Kevin finally realized

328
00:25:14,116 --> 00:25:16,875
Play a note for 15 minutes.

329
00:25:17,036 --> 00:25:21,755
It is possible to make the song go in ever changing directions

330
00:25:21,876 --> 00:25:25,115
One of its characteristics is the volume.

331
00:25:25,196 --> 00:25:28,195
At one point you think, "Well, that's great.

332
00:25:28,396 --> 00:25:30,955
But the volume is too high.

333
00:25:31,116 --> 00:25:33,475
Why don't you fucking stop?

334
00:25:33,556 --> 00:25:36,355
Things get interesting after seven minutes.

335
00:25:36,516 --> 00:25:38,875
Only after minute 10 do you start to hear the flavor.

336
00:25:38,996 --> 00:25:41,835
Come on, 20 minutes.

337
00:25:41,996 --> 00:25:45,315
It's all psychotic noise. It's unbearable.

338
00:25:45,436 --> 00:25:49,235
And then the bass and the drums went loud at the same time.

339
00:25:49,396 --> 00:25:51,155
Some don't like to hear it.

340
00:25:51,276 --> 00:25:54,195
Five minutes of this and they're already cursing.

341
00:25:54,316 --> 00:25:58,275
Trying to give us the finger.

342
00:25:58,356 --> 00:26:00,595
After five minutes of listening.

343
00:26:00,756 --> 00:26:03,955
The middle finger that had been lowered went up again.

344
00:26:04,116 --> 00:26:06,155
I'm enjoying the constant battle.

345
00:26:06,276 --> 00:26:10,675
People hate it when we fuck.

346
00:26:10,836 --> 00:26:13,755
But that's how they like to look.

347
00:26:13,916 --> 00:26:16,555
Let's see what else we can do.

348
00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:19,035
Isn't it mutual torture?

349
00:26:19,156 --> 00:26:20,115
I'm glad you like it.

350
00:27:25,356 --> 00:27:27,235
There's something cool about it.

351
00:27:27,396 --> 00:27:31,115
It gives you a feeling of confusion.

352
00:27:32,556 --> 00:27:36,275
That is the greatest feeling that MBV gives me.

353
00:27:36,396 --> 00:27:38,515
They give color to their voices.

354
00:27:38,636 --> 00:27:40,755
They can make you fly.

355
00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:43,395
It will also let you fish in the water.

356
00:27:43,516 --> 00:27:46,835
There is a wonderful sense of abstract tension

357
00:27:46,956 --> 00:27:52,195
I think there are few people who can achieve it.

358
00:27:52,476 --> 00:27:54,675
Some voices are deliberately muffled

359
00:27:54,796 --> 00:27:57,475
I'm obsessed with that type of music.

360
00:27:57,636 --> 00:27:59,675
It may be a little dark.

361
00:28:00,996 --> 00:28:04,435
This may be due to the

362
00:28:04,556 --> 00:28:07,235
People are used to listening to positive music.

363
00:28:07,276 --> 00:28:12,275
Because radio and television play that music.

364
00:28:12,476 --> 00:28:17,715
But we didn't make the album thinking about that.

365
00:28:18,756 --> 00:28:22,395
I listened to Loveless three times in one sitting.

366
00:28:22,556 --> 00:28:23,995
Then stop everything.

367
00:28:24,116 --> 00:28:26,795
He made some albums.

368
00:28:26,996 --> 00:28:29,595
I felt moved and inspired.

369
00:28:29,796 --> 00:28:32,835
This is a sacred album. We have waited too long.

370
00:28:32,956 --> 00:28:34,915
I might even think

371
00:28:35,036 --> 00:28:38,195
It is at its peak. It can't be better.

372
00:28:38,316 --> 00:28:41,635
Because it is 15 times bigger than itself.

373
00:28:41,676 --> 00:28:43,115
If it's better, of course.

374
00:28:43,156 --> 00:28:45,475
They probably don't even take it seriously.

375
00:28:45,516 --> 00:28:47,435
When I heard the first song

376
00:28:47,516 --> 00:28:50,315
Much better than I expected.

377
00:28:50,356 --> 00:28:51,795
That was the moment.

378
00:28:51,836 --> 00:28:55,355
I would like to see an album like this released once a year or once every ten years.

379
00:28:55,396 --> 00:28:58,515
In my opinion, it will always be among the ten best albums.

380
00:28:58,596 --> 00:29:03,035
I love everything I've heard in 40 years, almost 50.

381
00:29:03,116 --> 00:29:05,395
It's too important to me.

382
00:29:07,596 --> 00:29:12,875
My Bloody Valentine - Blown a Wish

383
00:29:41,116 --> 00:29:43,875
Loveless was a great experience for me.

384
00:29:43,916 --> 00:29:45,635
It's like going to the hospital when you're sick.

385
00:29:47,236 --> 00:29:49,035
Lying in a hospital bed.

386
00:29:49,076 --> 00:29:51,454
remain unconscious

387
00:29:51,495 --> 00:29:53,654
The doctor told him: "Wake up.

388
00:29:53,695 --> 00:29:55,734
You have to wake up and stop dreaming.

389
00:29:55,735 --> 00:29:57,374
You need to do some exercise.

390
00:29:57,415 --> 00:30:00,294
It's an album like a dream come true.

391
00:30:00,335 --> 00:30:01,894
It has been a pleasure working with Kevin.

392
00:30:01,895 --> 00:30:04,174
He was a very interesting man.

393
00:30:04,175 --> 00:30:07,894
He has a unique and avant-garde approach to music.

394
00:30:07,935 --> 00:30:11,254
He can feel things that others cannot.

395
00:30:13,095 --> 00:30:14,974
the chosen people

396
00:30:14,975 --> 00:30:17,094
Create the album that suits you best

397
00:30:17,495 --> 00:30:20,894
And with Alan as producer helping JAMC

398
00:30:20,895 --> 00:30:23,414
MBV, album production swervedriver

399
00:30:23,455 --> 00:30:25,654
Alan's skills have helped them a lot.

400
00:30:25,695 --> 00:30:27,654
It's layering the sound.

401
00:30:27,695 --> 00:30:30,174
Because originally these albums were unpolished.

402
00:30:30,215 --> 00:30:32,014
It sounds very abrupt.

403
00:30:32,055 --> 00:30:35,734
It's not exactly a public success.

404
00:30:35,735 --> 00:30:38,054
Moulder has given us new blood.

405
00:30:38,055 --> 00:30:40,534
It is integrated into the JAMC.

406
00:30:40,535 --> 00:30:43,774
He said that at first he was a fan.

407
00:30:44,855 --> 00:30:47,654
I hadn't seen this before.

408
00:30:47,655 --> 00:30:49,774
A big name in music post-production technology.

409
00:30:50,055 --> 00:30:52,374
It was great to meet them.

410
00:30:52,495 --> 00:30:55,614
Some confused voices mix

411
00:30:55,615 --> 00:30:57,574
It's like a wall of sound.

412
00:30:57,855 --> 00:31:00,614
I'm going to be very spontaneous with them

413
00:31:00,615 --> 00:31:02,414
assemble

414
00:31:04,055 --> 00:31:06,334
Highlight the guitarist's lines

415
00:31:06,335 --> 00:31:08,214
Because everyone is different.

416
00:31:08,215 --> 00:31:10,014
We were in London.

417
00:31:10,015 --> 00:31:11,494
Make the second single.

418
00:31:11,495 --> 00:31:14,094
The recording sounds like pig shit.

419
00:31:14,095 --> 00:31:16,334
Alan is our savior. I know him.

420
00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:17,734
He is a scientist.

421
00:31:17,735 --> 00:31:18,974
I cleaned up our "pig shit."

422
00:31:18,975 --> 00:31:20,534
I'm Alan Moulder.

423
00:31:20,535 --> 00:31:22,974
K
He's Mary Jane's man.

424
00:31:23,855 --> 00:31:26,414
Alan has made the sound more balanced.

425
00:31:26,975 --> 00:31:28,414
It's the reason he's so good at what he does.

426
00:31:28,415 --> 00:31:32,014
Because you can't hear which of the tracks is the kick drum and which is the snare.

427
00:31:32,055 --> 00:31:34,774
All sounds are mush.

428
00:31:34,815 --> 00:31:36,094
He has everything planned.

429
00:31:36,135 --> 00:31:37,134
This led to the release of our single

430
00:31:37,135 --> 00:31:38,574
And then he finished mixing the album.

431
00:31:38,575 --> 00:31:40,894
He's been helping us since '90.

432
00:31:41,535 --> 00:31:45,054
Until we got lost in '93.

433
00:31:56,975 --> 00:32:03,094
Ride-Chelsea Girl

434
00:32:27,175 --> 00:32:28,974
The band was founded on the basis of bad taste.

435
00:32:29,015 --> 00:32:31,534
We all love that band.

436
00:32:31,535 --> 00:32:34,054
Brother then let's imitate them together

437
00:32:34,095 --> 00:32:36,774
But we recognize that

438
00:32:36,815 --> 00:32:39,494
KIUE
We can write some of our own

439
00:32:39,495 --> 00:32:41,494
good songs

440
00:32:41,535 --> 00:32:44,214
I love melodrama.

441
00:32:44,255 --> 00:32:47,894
And I think, you know, all those problems in the rehearsal room.

442
00:32:47,935 --> 00:32:52,294
It ended up helping us a lot.

443
00:32:52,335 --> 00:32:55,454
Ride is an incredible band.

444
00:32:55,495 --> 00:32:58,574
They all glowed for a short period of time.

445
00:32:58,615 --> 00:33:02,654
that is, from 90 to 93

446
00:33:02,735 --> 00:33:06,214
They are one of my favorite bands.

447
00:33:06,215 --> 00:33:08,294
There is no doubt that they have talent.

448
00:33:09,495 --> 00:33:12,894
Ride is one of them.

449
00:33:13,775 --> 00:33:16,894
It looks like a pop band.

450
00:33:16,935 --> 00:33:19,054
Mark Gardener is the soul.

451
00:33:20,975 --> 00:33:25,214
Everything centers on the late 90s.

452
00:33:25,775 --> 00:33:28,814
The New Generation has been successful

453
00:33:28,855 --> 00:33:30,854
Ride laid the foundation for them.

454
00:33:30,855 --> 00:33:32,894
But it may not be profitable.

455
00:33:34,455 --> 00:33:41,894
Ride- Taste

456
00:34:38,615 --> 00:34:41,014
The Ride trick is our story.

457
00:34:41,015 --> 00:34:43,334
We met Alan Moulder at our third or fourth gig.

458
00:34:43,335 --> 00:34:46,574
He says he's London's Chan Ho Nam.

459
00:34:46,615 --> 00:34:50,334
We will meet with him in six weeks.

460
00:34:50,375 --> 00:34:52,734
I don't remember much, but it was crazy.

461
00:34:52,735 --> 00:34:54,494
Obviously many bands

462
00:34:54,535 --> 00:34:57,014
Everyone does what they can to earn a place in the music industry.

463
00:34:57,055 --> 00:35:00,414
That's why you have to make a few records before you become famous.

464
00:35:00,455 --> 00:35:05,094
Our first DEMO version

465
00:35:05,135 --> 00:35:09,614
Diverse opinions

466
00:35:09,615 --> 00:35:12,134
You can call yourself a musician when you have something to show.

467
00:35:12,175 --> 00:35:14,593
And then there is a mission in music

468
00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:16,233
We end with a feeling

469
00:35:16,274 --> 00:35:17,913
At first I didn't know anything.

470
00:35:17,954 --> 00:35:19,673
But little by little it becomes clearer.

471
00:35:19,714 --> 00:35:22,313
We make good songs.

472
00:35:22,794 --> 00:35:24,593
So that our listeners continue supporting us

473
00:35:24,634 --> 00:35:26,673
It's like leading a crowd of protesters with a baton.

474
00:35:26,714 --> 00:35:30,393
You have absolute power with your staff.

475
00:35:30,434 --> 00:35:32,633
Take out your baton when they come.

476
00:35:32,674 --> 00:35:35,073
Driving them to the end.

477
00:35:37,954 --> 00:35:40,673
The three EPs originally released by Slowdive

478
00:35:40,794 --> 00:35:44,993
It seems to me that they have completely created their own era.

479
00:35:45,034 --> 00:35:47,753
Heavenly music moves the heart! Move hearts and minds!

480
00:35:48,354 --> 00:36:14,633
Slowdive-Morningrise

481
00:36:15,754 --> 00:36:20,073
They will use some delays and special tunings.

482
00:36:20,074 --> 00:36:24,753
To create impressive sound effects.

483
00:36:24,754 --> 00:36:28,033
The guitar sounds like it has a keyboard underneath.

484
00:36:28,154 --> 00:36:31,553
Layers and layers, the icing on the cake

485
00:36:35,194 --> 00:36:41,753
Play in free hours

486
00:36:41,794 --> 00:36:43,753
But I don't think they like it.

487
00:36:43,794 --> 00:36:44,913
somehow

488
00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:47,193
They are the most uncompromising band of all time.

489
00:36:47,274 --> 00:36:51,353
Despite not having the opportunity to appear on the radio.

490
00:36:51,394 --> 00:36:52,753
And they don't care.

491
00:36:52,834 --> 00:36:54,953
Everything was a pleasure.

492
00:36:55,034 --> 00:37:00,193
I have had the opportunity to record great albums.

493
00:37:02,834 --> 00:37:05,673
Well, at least half counts.

494
00:37:05,674 --> 00:37:08,033
There are some that are probably very good.

495
00:37:14,234 --> 00:37:58,113
Chapter House- Pearl

496
00:37:58,634 --> 00:38:04,553
One of the things I have liked most about Chapterhouse from the beginning is that

497
00:38:04,634 --> 00:38:09,553
Compared to other bands, they put a special effort into sound.

498
00:38:09,554 --> 00:38:13,433
They mix electro and guitar.

499
00:38:13,474 --> 00:38:16,753
It is no longer limited to the guitar

500
00:38:17,634 --> 00:38:21,473
His second album, for example

501
00:38:21,514 --> 00:38:25,593
It would be difficult to know if it is Indie or not.

502
00:38:25,674 --> 00:38:29,153
It's still electronic.

503
00:38:30,194 --> 00:38:31,953
It's also an excellent idea.

504
00:38:32,034 --> 00:38:36,913
I try it when I make my own music.

505
00:38:36,954 --> 00:38:42,153
Try to mix these two different sounds as best as possible

506
00:38:42,234 --> 00:38:47,113
I think these songs are meant to be listened to several times.

507
00:38:47,234 --> 00:38:51,193
Every time you hear it, you hear something new.

508
00:38:51,234 --> 00:38:53,273
You listen to it 20 or 30 times.

509
00:38:53,314 --> 00:38:55,233
Everything is new to me.

510
00:38:56,794 --> 00:39:01,873
We make deliberately crazy pop music.

511
00:39:01,954 --> 00:39:04,353
It's like dismembering pop music.

512
00:39:04,474 --> 00:39:07,393
It's not so easy to understand.

513
00:39:13,234 --> 00:39:19,553
Son of Mustang Ford

514
00:39:22,314 --> 00:39:51,273
Son of Mustang Ford

515
00:39:53,674 --> 00:39:59,633
England in the 80s was a fertile land

516
00:40:02,034 --> 00:40:06,713
Many bands are making noise again, but not in a rigid way.

517
00:40:06,754 --> 00:40:10,593
At first, people always said this was like Dinosaur Jr and that was like Sonic Youth.

518
00:40:10,674 --> 00:40:13,713
But this is the right time for Swervedriver to speak out.

519
00:40:13,874 --> 00:40:16,553
In my opinion, of all the bands.

520
00:40:16,554 --> 00:40:18,113
Swervedriver is one of my favorites.

521
00:40:18,154 --> 00:40:20,753
Because they sound like Mary Oranges.

522
00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:22,833
It's also very American.

523
00:40:22,914 --> 00:40:25,553
We will take them with us on our American tour.

524
00:40:25,554 --> 00:40:28,193
His style should be a hit with the American public.

525
00:40:28,234 --> 00:40:33,153
But Swervedriver isn't even on American radio, and MTV will play it.

526
00:40:33,954 --> 00:40:36,513
At that time they didn't play your songs on the radio.

527
00:40:36,514 --> 00:40:39,113
No one in America will know who you are.

528
00:40:42,194 --> 00:40:46,993
The best thing about being in Pale Saints is the determination to make music.

529
00:40:47,034 --> 00:40:51,553
Enjoy the passion of creating

530
00:40:53,634 --> 00:40:56,433
Before the record company signed us.

531
00:40:56,634 --> 00:41:00,033
One of my dreams is to make an album

532
00:41:00,074 --> 00:41:01,833
It's that simple.

533
00:41:01,954 --> 00:41:03,633
I just want to make an album.

534
00:41:04,594 --> 00:41:22,193
Insubstantial - Live at Brixton 1991

535
00:41:27,914 --> 00:42:16,612
Insubstantial - Live at Brixton 1991

536
00:42:20,093 --> 00:42:23,332
We always wanted to be in a band.

537
00:42:23,373 --> 00:42:25,692
So we started rehearsing in the kitchen.

538
00:42:25,733 --> 00:42:28,532
Then Miki and I went to university.

539
00:42:28,533 --> 00:42:34,372
He met Chris Acland, Meriel Barham and Steve Rippon at school.

540
00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:37,092
That's our original lineup.

541
00:42:37,133 --> 00:42:39,452
We are ready to start playing in the band ^_^

542
00:42:40,093 --> 00:42:55,292
Nothing Natural - Cambridge?

543
00:42:57,853 --> 00:43:01,812
Nothing Natural - Cambridge?

544
00:43:04,853 --> 00:43:43,492
...

545
00:43:46,133 --> 00:43:49,812
...

546
00:44:09,413 --> 00:44:15,172
The week I received the demo of the Lush and Pale Saints recording.

547
00:44:15,293 --> 00:44:20,092
Turns out they have an ensemble show at Falcon.

548
00:44:20,133 --> 00:44:23,212
Yeah, I think it's Falcon, which, with all due respect, is a pretty shitty place.

549
00:44:23,333 --> 00:44:25,132
I'll still go see them, of course.

550
00:44:25,293 --> 00:44:30,012
It was a pleasure to see them and sign them.

551
00:44:32,933 --> 00:44:35,132
Dean and I are completely different people.

552
00:44:35,133 --> 00:44:38,932
I'm a punk by birth and that's how things are.

553
00:44:39,013 --> 00:44:40,932
I never understand what they are talking about.

554
00:44:41,013 --> 00:44:43,172
"This is how you have to mess it up." "Have you heard of MBV?" "Have you heard of these bands?"

555
00:44:43,293 --> 00:44:48,252
So I started talking to him about all the music he listened to and he fell in love.

556
00:44:48,253 --> 00:44:51,012
He understood it right away. He didn't need to be told.

557
00:44:51,093 --> 00:44:53,572
I think they're fine, you know?

558
00:44:53,613 --> 00:44:56,172
Some of the songs, I guess. They are good. All.

559
00:44:56,213 --> 00:44:58,332
Ridden or not, everyone is good.

560
00:44:58,333 --> 00:45:02,652
Emma from Lush, she writes songs with a unique spirit, you know?

561
00:45:02,693 --> 00:45:06,212
These people are pretty good ah I'm going to praise them not about

562
00:45:17,293 --> 00:45:21,092
It seems to me that we are in the sixties.

563
00:45:21,133 --> 00:45:24,212
The labels don't know what's going on either.

564
00:45:24,333 --> 00:45:27,732
So they go around signing bands, and at the end of the day, they see who's hot.

565
00:45:27,773 --> 00:45:31,292
We make the most of this great opportunity.
(Medicine was the first American group to sign to Creation Records).

566
00:45:31,293 --> 00:45:34,412
So there was interesting underground music.

567
00:45:34,413 --> 00:45:38,052
Everyone receives a $10,000 contract.

568
00:45:38,173 --> 00:45:41,612
In the end, it's a pretty good idea.

569
00:46:04,653 --> 00:46:08,132
The best in my opinion is

570
00:46:08,213 --> 00:46:11,612
People in this circle like to try new techniques.

571
00:46:11,693 --> 00:46:14,412
On stage and in the studio.

572
00:46:14,533 --> 00:46:17,012
Try to discover new continents.

573
00:46:17,133 --> 00:46:19,532
Those guitar sounds.

574
00:46:19,533 --> 00:46:22,412
They have their own personality and soul.

575
00:46:22,533 --> 00:46:26,452
They are not at our mercy, and we certainly don't want to be at their mercy.

576
00:46:26,533 --> 00:46:29,212
So every time we play

577
00:46:29,213 --> 00:46:38,452
It's about the fear of the uncontrollable, the excitement and pleasure of it all.

578
00:46:42,093 --> 00:46:45,492
In the end, you continue using the same instruments.

579
00:46:47,013 --> 00:46:51,652
But can your playing style be infinite? You don't have to use the same old amplifier.

580
00:46:51,733 --> 00:46:57,332
Learn to be like the seventies, like the Who, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles

581
00:46:57,373 --> 00:46:59,692
You even bought the same instrument as them.

582
00:46:59,733 --> 00:47:01,332
lit. dancing in the skin of a daisy and frowning at the opposite end of the spectrum

583
00:47:01,373 --> 00:47:04,812
Do you think this is rock 'n' roll?

584
00:47:04,853 --> 00:47:07,732
I can't agree with that.

585
00:47:07,813 --> 00:47:10,012
When a group breaks with tradition

586
00:47:10,013 --> 00:47:13,012
Let's say Public Image Ltd

587
00:47:13,053 --> 00:47:15,412
Let's say My Bloody Valentine.

588
00:47:15,493 --> 00:47:18,852
This is where it starts to get interesting.

589
00:47:19,413 --> 00:47:23,212
What I find most interesting about the whole shoe-looking movement is that

590
00:47:23,293 --> 00:47:28,972
Many bands try to work their guitars.

591
00:47:29,013 --> 00:47:32,932
They will try something new and different.

592
00:47:33,013 --> 00:47:35,692
This is getting very interesting.

593
00:47:36,613 --> 00:47:39,212
I never stop to think.

594
00:47:39,213 --> 00:47:41,932
To make my guitar sound more like a synthesizer.

595
00:47:44,213 --> 00:47:46,932
Some of the people who influenced me before

596
00:47:47,013 --> 00:47:49,292
Like Robin Guthrie and Kevin Shield.

597
00:47:49,373 --> 00:47:55,012
The way they break with the traditional way of playing the guitar fascinates me.

598
00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:59,772
We tried to make a sound that no one has made before.

599
00:47:59,813 --> 00:48:03,132
It was probably the only thing that mattered then.

600
00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:06,372
Sound effects that no one else can do.

601
00:48:08,032 --> 00:48:12,111
A lot of what I create is drone-bass.

602
00:48:12,192 --> 00:48:16,471
Based on some very simple syllables and chords

603
00:48:19,552 --> 00:48:24,351
In general, I need to create a mood through these things.

604
00:48:24,392 --> 00:48:27,751
So naturally, we will use the most appropriate method

605
00:48:27,792 --> 00:48:31,991
The essence of ambient music is the world that is created.

606
00:48:31,992 --> 00:48:36,311
It's strange. It's dark.

607
00:48:36,392 --> 00:48:40,191
For example, tell me four lines from My Bloody Valentine.

608
00:48:40,232 --> 00:48:43,791
Can you? No, you can't. Because many times you can't understand what they are singing.

609
00:48:43,832 --> 00:48:45,751
But it's okay.

610
00:48:45,792 --> 00:48:49,911
If you sing it as if it were too clear, you won't hear it the same way.

611
00:48:51,352 --> 00:48:55,711
Write about the vocal parts. The vocal parts are more or less the same melody.

612
00:48:55,752 --> 00:48:58,791
I couldn't help but sing it, and it sounded pretty good.

613
00:48:58,872 --> 00:49:02,111
And the lyrics, they just came to me.

614
00:49:02,192 --> 00:49:07,911
And then I realized it was pretty fluid. It was like a murmur.

615
00:49:48,792 --> 00:49:59,431
For the love of Lush

616
00:49:59,632 --> 00:50:03,751
Nobody gives importance to the fact that there is a female musician.

617
00:50:03,792 --> 00:50:08,951
Like Slowdive and My Bloody Valentine have female musicians.

618
00:50:09,072 --> 00:50:11,111
Men and women are equal in the band. It's not about gender.

619
00:50:11,152 --> 00:50:13,511
Debbie Googe is an excellent bassist in her own right.

620
00:50:13,552 --> 00:50:16,871
It's not because she's a bearish woman that she's good.

621
00:50:16,912 --> 00:50:19,711
In some ways, it seems that the world is still in its place.

622
00:50:19,792 --> 00:50:26,191
Of course, we have many female musicians on the Lush label.

623
00:50:26,232 --> 00:50:29,751
Whether like us or not.

624
00:50:29,792 --> 00:50:33,751
Like Throwing Muses, Kim Deal (Pixies, The Breeders).

625
00:50:33,792 --> 00:50:38,511
It seems like 4AD has always had more female musicians.

626
00:50:38,992 --> 00:50:42,111
At that time there was a very healthy environment to create music.

627
00:50:42,152 --> 00:50:46,911
Regarding the gender of the creator

628
00:50:46,952 --> 00:50:50,111
I never took it seriously.

629
00:50:50,192 --> 00:51:03,871
Slowdive- Catch the Breeze

630
00:51:05,672 --> 00:51:09,311
Rachel sings the vast majority of Slowdive songs.

631
00:51:09,392 --> 00:51:13,511
There were some songs that we sang together.

632
00:51:13,552 --> 00:51:16,391
I've always loved that voice.

633
00:51:16,432 --> 00:51:25,911
heavily influenced by Sonic Youth and My Bloody Valentine.

634
00:51:28,392 --> 00:51:34,591
We try to emulate that tone, but in our own way.

635
00:51:34,712 --> 00:51:41,951
There were as many girls as boys playing music in the indie scene back then, you know?

636
00:51:41,992 --> 00:51:45,791
And then, look.

637
00:51:47,312 --> 00:51:52,711
Nebbercracker appeared British rock also came to Oasis ah hit group ah

638
00:51:52,792 --> 00:51:56,271
And this rock 'n' roll spirit rejuvenates.

639
00:51:56,312 --> 00:52:00,591
Kevin has a way of combining the characteristics of men and women in his compositions, such as

640
00:52:00,632 --> 00:52:04,391
The passion and strength of music come from men.

641
00:52:04,512 --> 00:52:07,511
Melodic and soft voices of the female gender.

642
00:52:07,592 --> 00:52:10,271
It's a perfect combination.

643
00:52:10,392 --> 00:52:13,911
I know there is a recipe to become MBV.

644
00:52:13,912 --> 00:52:16,911
The other secret is

645
00:52:17,032 --> 00:52:20,711
Coordination between men and women

646
00:52:20,752 --> 00:52:24,031
Whether on a gender level or on a spiritual level.

647
00:52:24,072 --> 00:52:27,391
After all, rock'n'roll used to be for straight men.

648
00:52:27,432 --> 00:52:35,071
It's strange to see an industry dominated by men, right?

649
00:52:35,352 --> 00:52:38,751
It's strange.

650
00:52:39,952 --> 00:52:45,311
I remember when bands like Dinosaur Jr, Sonic Youth and My Bloody Valentine

651
00:52:45,312 --> 00:52:49,951
You are on stage, with the guitar in your hand and at the top of your game.

652
00:52:50,232 --> 00:52:54,111
Try not to look at the public, look at your shoes and think about life, and that's it.

653
00:52:54,352 --> 00:52:56,551
We keep a low profile.

654
00:52:56,672 --> 00:53:01,551
He never put a photo of himself on the album cover.

655
00:53:01,592 --> 00:53:03,591
It doesn't matter.

656
00:53:03,672 --> 00:53:05,351
We just want to make music.

657
00:53:05,672 --> 00:53:09,111
I would always like to be able to make a single brick

658
00:53:09,152 --> 00:53:12,591
With that I started.

659
00:53:12,912 --> 00:53:18,311
Go back to the beginning and do a single.

660
00:53:18,312 --> 00:53:21,191
I really want to make a single.

661
00:53:21,232 --> 00:53:25,391
And my young self probably didn't have enough confidence at that time.

662
00:53:25,592 --> 00:53:30,271
I'm not a big fan of intentional "styling"

663
00:53:31,712 --> 00:53:35,391
Blessed with this opportunity

664
00:53:35,472 --> 00:53:39,991
It allows me to create without inhibitions, to feel the joy of doing so.

665
00:53:40,112 --> 00:53:45,391
Without falling into the typical rock 'n' roll

666
00:53:46,272 --> 00:53:49,591
I'm not interested in stage tricks.

667
00:53:49,672 --> 00:53:53,591
Because music is the most important thing.

668
00:53:53,712 --> 00:53:55,570
Because I usually go to shows.

669
00:53:55,691 --> 00:53:57,370
As long as the music is good.

670
00:53:57,451 --> 00:54:00,290
I'm just going to close my eyes and enjoy whatever you're doing on stage.

671
00:54:00,451 --> 00:54:03,730
If we were all "Beasts of Rock and Roll".

672
00:54:03,771 --> 00:54:07,570
MBV is a completely different thing. It's not us.

673
00:54:08,571 --> 00:54:11,890
We remain introspective.

674
00:54:11,971 --> 00:54:17,650
We're here to play music, not to be famous.

675
00:54:18,171 --> 00:54:22,650
Those 20 Minute Show Riots (1985 London College of Technology Riots)

676
00:54:22,691 --> 00:54:25,210
It is spreading too fast.

677
00:54:25,291 --> 00:54:29,490
JAMC's image may be too cold.

678
00:54:29,571 --> 00:54:31,810
It seems like you don't know how to speak well.

679
00:54:31,891 --> 00:54:36,090
It's like we turn around and run when we're on the road.

680
00:54:36,291 --> 00:54:40,450
We are actually quite shy.

681
00:54:40,571 --> 00:54:45,690
I'm not used to being around people I don't know.

682
00:54:45,771 --> 00:54:50,810
There are people who think that it is very difficult to get along with me.

683
00:54:50,891 --> 00:54:53,690
I'm a bit of a sociopath.

684
00:54:53,811 --> 00:54:58,770
I don't think the image is too important.

685
00:54:58,891 --> 00:55:01,850
But in reality it is a product of socialization

686
00:55:01,891 --> 00:55:08,290
If you go back and look at how people dressed on TV in the 90s.

687
00:55:08,331 --> 00:55:15,410
You see, there isn't much self-awareness.

688
00:55:15,571 --> 00:55:19,210
The so-called image is not an image

689
00:55:19,331 --> 00:55:23,930
It's like a fashion. It's not shameful.

690
00:55:25,371 --> 00:55:30,010
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

691
00:55:30,171 --> 00:55:35,090
It is precisely this person who creates self-esteem

692
00:55:35,171 --> 00:55:39,090
Dinosaur Jr My Bloody Valentine, for example.

693
00:55:39,171 --> 00:55:42,570
They are going to make rock 'n' roll so passionate that it will be deafening.

694
00:55:42,611 --> 00:55:46,890
Play it like an Aerosmith and you'll be fine.

695
00:55:46,971 --> 00:55:51,730
And don't make a fool of yourself by acting like a monkey.

696
00:55:55,011 --> 00:56:00,010
We (Cocteau Twins) are terrible at doing interviews, but the recordings are great.

697
00:56:00,091 --> 00:56:03,450
In the studio, we are like a fish out of water. We can express ourselves very well.

698
00:56:03,491 --> 00:56:07,450
When it comes to interviews, we can't do them.

699
00:56:07,531 --> 00:56:12,450
As soon as the camera hit the record button, we got confused.

700
00:56:12,531 --> 00:56:16,210
We always feel that the media is persecuting us.

701
00:56:16,291 --> 00:56:18,490
Ask us complicated questions to make things difficult.

702
00:56:18,571 --> 00:56:20,770
So we didn't say anything.

703
00:56:20,851 --> 00:56:25,010
The press will come to interview us, but they will not prepare.

704
00:56:25,531 --> 00:56:29,090
Everyone knows how to fish in troubled waters.

705
00:56:29,211 --> 00:56:33,090
And they never read the press releases that the record company sends them in advance.

706
00:56:33,171 --> 00:56:36,850
I especially disliked the British press in those days.

707
00:56:36,971 --> 00:56:41,490
That look of trying to impress me and Liz.

708
00:56:41,571 --> 00:56:43,570
Because we have a Scottish accent.

709
00:56:43,611 --> 00:56:46,770
The same thing happened to JAMC later.

710
00:56:46,891 --> 00:56:52,090
These journalists, in their own way, paraphrase what we say and write everything down.

711
00:56:52,171 --> 00:56:59,850
"What's wrong with you?" It's the northeastern accent.

712
00:56:59,931 --> 00:57:03,010
It seems that they have a special contempt for the people of Scotland.

713
00:57:03,131 --> 00:57:08,650
If you read this SB story, you'd also think, "This is a fucking joke.

714
00:57:08,691 --> 00:57:12,370
So I don't understand it. These people are disgusting.

715
00:57:12,491 --> 00:57:15,490
One minute he sucks at you and the next he belittles you.

716
00:57:15,611 --> 00:57:20,410
Over time, we didn't bother doing interviews.

717
00:57:21,211 --> 00:57:24,890
Because these people don't know anything.

718
00:57:25,011 --> 00:57:28,370
They interviewed us when Loveless came out.

719
00:57:28,451 --> 00:57:31,730
But it took years for people to slowly start talking about Loveless.

720
00:57:32,171 --> 00:57:35,250
At that time everyone was saying: "This band is too stuck up!"

721
00:57:35,331 --> 00:57:41,770
But I think I had the right idea at the time, not the wrong one.

722
00:57:41,891 --> 00:57:47,330
Hey, I'm just saying it's funny.

723
00:57:47,371 --> 00:57:51,890
Nowadays, music reviews are much more reliable than before.

724
00:57:51,971 --> 00:57:53,690
The music critics of the time said that we were

725
00:57:53,811 --> 00:57:57,410
Shorted guitars, vacuum cleaner sound effects, monks singing, that sort of thing.

726
00:57:57,531 --> 00:58:02,530
What does it say? It's all wrong.

727
00:58:02,571 --> 00:58:04,410
We are an underground band.

728
00:58:04,491 --> 00:58:07,810
Flattered by the media coverage

729
00:58:08,771 --> 00:58:13,730
You'll see a lot of coverage every week

730
00:58:14,691 --> 00:58:17,530
But we don't pay much attention to it.

731
00:58:17,571 --> 00:58:23,410
News about our rehearsal room, recording studio, musicians

732
00:58:25,891 --> 00:58:30,210
Of course we get negative press.

733
00:58:30,291 --> 00:58:33,290
But not too much.

734
00:58:36,011 --> 00:58:38,850
It seems like everyone likes each other.

735
00:58:38,891 --> 00:58:43,290
The band helps each other out from time to time.

736
00:58:43,411 --> 00:58:46,970
A very friendly period in the history of music.

737
00:58:47,091 --> 00:58:49,250
NME (New Musical Express Magazine) must hate this.

738
00:58:49,291 --> 00:58:53,690
Due to the lack of information devices

739
00:58:53,771 --> 00:58:58,290
I'm surprised bands don't dislike each other.

740
00:58:58,331 --> 00:59:00,170
NME must have got what they wanted in the end.

741
00:59:00,251 --> 00:59:03,890
We grew up with Chapterhouse.

742
00:59:03,931 --> 00:59:07,010
We're all from Reading.

743
00:59:07,051 --> 00:59:11,530
Ride is from Oxford, and we've known each other for a long time.

744
00:59:11,611 --> 00:59:16,450
Some of our bands interact and play from time to time. It's a lot of fun talking to each other.

745
00:59:16,531 --> 00:59:20,210
When the media finally started to meddle in the circle

746
00:59:20,291 --> 00:59:24,770
Everyone begins to distance themselves from others.

747
00:59:24,891 --> 00:59:30,469
Little by little, unnecessary tension developed

748
00:59:30,550 --> 00:59:35,029
The British media always have a routine

749
00:59:35,070 --> 00:59:40,149
It's about hollowing out a band.

750
00:59:40,270 --> 00:59:42,669
So we were very good friends.

751
00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:46,349
We are both typical middle class young people.

752
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:52,309
And in England, you know, being middle class is not a good thing.

753
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:57,669
Many people don't want to do what the media tells them.

754
00:59:57,750 --> 01:00:00,469
Although the press was enormous at that time, it was the lifeblood of many bands.

755
01:00:00,550 --> 01:00:02,669
Otherwise, the album will not be sold�.

756
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:06,349
But Ride did it, and they made it to Top of the Pops.

757
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:11,509
They are probably at the forefront of marketing...

758
01:00:11,590 --> 01:00:17,549
But I don't remember what the media wrote about Ride.

759
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:26,549
It's funny to look back and see how shitty it was.

760
01:00:26,670 --> 01:00:32,069
Unfortunately, good things have been hard to come by.

761
01:00:32,190 --> 01:00:35,709
outside the system

762
01:00:35,790 --> 01:00:42,869
We all hope that the people of Great Britain accept these good bands.

763
01:00:42,990 --> 01:00:47,709
But new things appear.

764
01:00:47,790 --> 01:00:53,349
The music press took a backseat and was replaced by the popular tabloids.

765
01:00:53,470 --> 01:00:55,229
Fire the red-hot infiltrators

766
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:57,069
At the end of the day, everyone is tired.

767
01:01:00,470 --> 01:01:03,749
Everything is going wonderfully.

768
01:01:03,830 --> 01:01:07,229
You don't feel the need to change anything. You don't feel the need to innovate.

769
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:09,989
We have stayed the course.

770
01:01:10,030 --> 01:01:12,229
Nobody gives us their opinion.

771
01:01:12,270 --> 01:01:15,269
Nothing.

772
01:01:15,350 --> 01:01:18,269
We will go step by step. If there is a show, there is a show.

773
01:01:18,350 --> 01:01:20,629
Getting stuck in a routine

774
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:24,749
We choose everything, and it remains that way.

775
01:01:24,830 --> 01:01:28,349
Good thing Dave Newton was our agent.

776
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:31,549
But it is a failure.

777
01:01:31,630 --> 01:01:36,709
Because what goes around comes around.

778
01:01:36,750 --> 01:01:38,789
This is what's scary.

779
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:42,829
If the four had a unified direction

780
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:45,469
They will conquer the world.

781
01:01:45,590 --> 01:01:50,069
They have a lot of great songs, like Vapor trail.

782
01:01:50,190 --> 01:01:53,389
It's one of the best 15-second intro songs ever.

783
01:01:55,150 --> 01:02:09,269
steam route

784
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:20,909
I remember when we were planning a tour.

785
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:24,749
It's the first time I have a thought like that. Maybe it's happened to me before.

786
01:02:24,830 --> 01:02:28,389
I was looking at the crowd and an idea occurred to me.

787
01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:32,149
They could have realized something was wrong.

788
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:37,149
Although the show was a success.

789
01:02:38,110 --> 01:02:41,989
But it won't always be so easy.

790
01:02:42,070 --> 01:02:49,069
In 1992-1994 we had a difficult time.

791
01:02:49,150 --> 01:02:53,669
We have had many disagreements.

792
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:57,669
They all plan to leave the team and go their separate ways.

793
01:02:57,750 --> 01:03:02,589
It was a surprise when it became a fact.

794
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:06,269
Because the new album is not finished yet.

795
01:03:06,310 --> 01:03:10,829
But I really like this album.

796
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:13,629
Let's sign one.

797
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:16,149
separation contract

798
01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:18,229
So we went to Dave's office.
(Dave Newton is his manager.)

799
01:03:18,270 --> 01:03:21,109
In this meeting

800
01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:24,469
Mark said a lot. He said he didn't want to sign.

801
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:26,469
I don't want to sign it.

802
01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:27,589
Loz and Steve don't want to sign it.

803
01:03:27,590 --> 01:03:29,189
But the truth is that I haven't had a choice for a long time.

804
01:03:29,230 --> 01:03:31,269
We face a choice.

805
01:03:31,310 --> 01:03:33,549
Go or stay?

806
01:03:34,310 --> 01:03:37,149
I perfectly remember saying that none of us could leave.

807
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:39,909
Because the band is everything or nothing.

808
01:03:39,950 --> 01:03:41,749
Either there are four or there are no more.

809
01:03:41,790 --> 01:03:43,669
If a man leaves

810
01:03:43,710 --> 01:03:45,869
I don't see the point in continuing.

811
01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:54,069
Ride-Vapour Trail

812
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:10,029
Everything has its own development curve.

813
01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:13,469
When it reaches a certain point

814
01:04:13,470 --> 01:04:19,189
Then it will start to get worse.

815
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:23,309
The same thing happens with music.

816
01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:27,869
I think

817
01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:30,349
The last time we spoke with

818
01:04:30,430 --> 01:04:33,349
Goo Goo Dolls with Gin Blossoms

819
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:35,669
The show starts at 7:30 p.m.

820
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:38,629
There weren't even any fans after the show.

821
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:45,829
We're probably just enjoying ourselves.

822
01:04:50,430 --> 01:04:53,349
At that time they were doing things

823
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:56,389
With a kind of

824
01:04:56,430 --> 01:05:02,829
Against nostalgic and unimaginative emotions

825
01:05:02,910 --> 01:05:07,589
That's why they invented "English" rock.

826
01:05:07,630 --> 01:05:10,069
There is no shortage of excellent jobs

827
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:13,229
But most are terrible.

828
01:05:13,310 --> 01:05:21,869
I found some humbling and positive qualities in Staring Shoes

829
01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:24,629
It's not about image.

830
01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:26,629
More on a musical level

831
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:30,149
But this was quickly ignored by the media

832
01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:33,749
This is probably because

833
01:05:33,870 --> 01:05:38,069
The trend has passed by default.

834
01:05:48,929 --> 01:05:53,048
In the end everything is a mess.

835
01:05:55,089 --> 01:05:57,448
But I think that

836
01:05:58,969 --> 01:06:03,968
It wasn't that bad. It wasn't that stressful.

837
01:06:04,089 --> 01:06:06,448
I remember it. It was a difficult moment for everyone.

838
01:06:06,529 --> 01:06:09,448
Because it's almost a bottleneck.

839
01:06:09,529 --> 01:06:12,768
They are already making a name for themselves.

840
01:06:12,889 --> 01:06:18,288
And it reached its peak in the early 90s.

841
01:06:20,209 --> 01:06:23,448
But they couldn't reconcile the band with their personalities.

842
01:06:23,529 --> 01:06:26,448
This puts the entire gang in an ambiguous position.

843
01:06:26,569 --> 01:06:33,248
When we signed with a major record label, we got our act together.

844
01:06:33,369 --> 01:06:35,688
high and mighty

845
01:06:35,729 --> 01:06:37,488
Trying to manipulate us?

846
01:06:37,569 --> 01:06:41,088
There's no way we're going to be fucking mavericks.

847
01:06:41,169 --> 01:06:43,208
There's nothing wrong with that.

848
01:06:43,289 --> 01:06:47,088
But the consequence was that the people in the company gradually distanced themselves from us.

849
01:06:47,249 --> 01:06:50,368
Some people who think they know what's going on talk about it.

850
01:06:50,449 --> 01:06:52,368
"This band has begun to disintegrate from within."

851
01:06:52,449 --> 01:06:53,928
"Leave them alone for six months."

852
01:06:54,009 --> 01:06:57,088
"Let them take a vacation to recover."

853
01:06:57,169 --> 01:06:59,008
"Let them keep making these trash songs."

854
01:06:59,089 --> 01:07:02,048
"Let them argue among themselves" or whatever.

855
01:07:02,169 --> 01:07:03,928
But that was not what happened.

856
01:07:03,969 --> 01:07:05,808
Two new songs will be released next Thursday.

857
01:07:05,889 --> 01:07:08,448
We will continue to take it seriously.

858
01:07:13,569 --> 01:07:16,808
Marry Chains stories are never boring.

859
01:07:16,889 --> 01:07:19,408
We have never been silent.

860
01:07:19,489 --> 01:07:22,888
We have always been bossy.

861
01:07:23,009 --> 01:07:28,008
In my case, it's not the painful memories that I regret.

862
01:07:28,129 --> 01:07:32,088
We were both the ones who were at odds at that moment.

863
01:07:32,169 --> 01:07:34,568
Mary Jane is not like other bands.

864
01:07:34,649 --> 01:07:38,848
New Order, The Clash, they are not going to stand out.

865
01:07:38,889 --> 01:07:42,128
We just want to be successful, not at a high level.

866
01:07:42,369 --> 01:07:46,088
You already know.

867
01:07:46,169 --> 01:07:50,288
Our main fascination is underground music.

868
01:07:50,329 --> 01:07:53,888
*I can't understand*

869
01:07:53,969 --> 01:07:57,888
We want this success, and we want to go further.

870
01:07:57,969 --> 01:08:02,448
Jokes in a world where entertainment is dead

871
01:08:02,489 --> 01:08:07,528
But it's just a matter of having the heart to do it.

872
01:08:07,609 --> 01:08:12,208
Mary Jane was pushed almost to the barren ground

873
01:08:12,289 --> 01:08:14,608
We don't do those tricks.

874
01:08:14,649 --> 01:08:18,368
Those people won't like it.

875
01:08:19,209 --> 01:08:21,128
So I feel that

876
01:08:21,249 --> 01:08:25,248
Not appreciated or recognized

877
01:08:25,249 --> 01:08:35,888
JAMC- I hate Rock n Roll

878
01:09:45,809 --> 01:09:49,008
We moved from where we were because it was very bad.

879
01:09:49,089 --> 01:09:52,448
Working in a place as bad as that.

880
01:09:52,489 --> 01:09:55,568
How can a band talk to you about hundreds of thousands of pounds of business

881
01:09:55,889 --> 01:09:57,568
Does it work?

882
01:09:57,649 --> 01:10:00,768
Of course they have the same financing for a 20-year contract

883
01:10:00,809 --> 01:10:03,248
I thank Alan for the excavation.

884
01:10:03,329 --> 01:10:07,608
But he's very stingy at the record company.

885
01:10:07,689 --> 01:10:09,768
He has all the power. We don't have money.

886
01:10:09,809 --> 01:10:11,448
There are no resources

887
01:10:11,529 --> 01:10:27,008
*I can't understand*

888
01:10:27,049 --> 01:10:31,528
They have always hated rules and regulations.

889
01:10:31,569 --> 01:10:34,368
*I can't understand*

890
01:10:34,449 --> 01:10:38,248
You never know what he's going to do next.

891
01:10:38,289 --> 01:10:42,608
Six months after our relationship broke up.

892
01:10:42,689 --> 01:10:47,008
We will soon be short of money.

893
01:10:47,049 --> 01:10:48,728
Because I'm not one of those who make concessions.

894
01:10:48,809 --> 01:11:05,648
*I can't understand*

895
01:11:05,689 --> 01:11:09,368
He realized the seriousness of the problem and began to get serious

896
01:11:09,449 --> 01:11:11,328
He came to the studio in January.

897
01:11:11,409 --> 01:11:13,528
We don't like him stirring up shit.

898
01:11:13,609 --> 01:11:15,648
Just say we're doing another special.

899
01:11:15,689 --> 01:11:18,408
You can't go back to the studio.

900
01:11:18,449 --> 01:11:21,168
You are killing us.

901
01:11:21,249 --> 01:11:26,288
He kept saying that the company would go bankrupt if expenses were too high.

902
01:11:27,169 --> 01:11:30,008
Then he brought the band out of the studio.

903
01:11:30,089 --> 01:11:34,248
When we started Loveless in September of '89.

904
01:11:34,329 --> 01:11:36,648
Creation pays everyone.

905
01:11:36,729 --> 01:11:40,088
So this relationship confuses me.

906
01:11:40,169 --> 01:11:42,888
The only thing they like

907
01:11:42,969 --> 01:11:45,208
It's about making a low-budget album and selling it.

908
01:11:45,209 --> 01:11:46,368
But we didn't do it.

909
01:11:46,529 --> 01:11:55,288
*I can't understand*

910
01:11:55,449 --> 01:11:59,728
He came to the studio to listen to Loveless.

911
01:11:59,769 --> 01:12:01,888
He said it sounded like a very expensive record.

912
01:12:01,929 --> 01:12:05,088
I think you are absolutely right.

913
01:12:05,169 --> 01:12:08,968
Then release it quickly. You don't have to do anything.

914
01:12:09,009 --> 01:12:10,968
You don't even have to promote it.

915
01:12:11,009 --> 01:12:14,888
Loveless is the most overrated fucking album in history.

916
01:12:16,569 --> 01:12:20,688
And many people laugh at me.

917
01:12:20,809 --> 01:12:23,408
I still remember him as a great drug addict.

918
01:12:23,449 --> 01:12:28,808
He is completely addicted to drugs and can't get off them.

919
01:12:28,889 --> 01:12:31,928
It is your spiritual comfort.

920
01:12:31,969 --> 01:12:35,808


921
01:12:35,889 --> 01:12:38,088
I have heard the most frightening thing.

922
01:12:38,169 --> 01:12:42,848
Kevin dissed McGee on the news.

923
01:12:42,929 --> 01:12:45,808
So McGee is talking about banishing Kevin.

924
01:12:45,929 --> 01:12:49,227
Apparently McGee has given up on him.

925
01:12:49,268 --> 01:12:53,987
Then they (mbv) stopped messing with creations

926
01:12:54,028 --> 01:12:59,507
I got a lot of money when I signed with Island Records.

927
01:12:59,588 --> 01:13:02,467
It's like boiling a frog in hot water.

928
01:13:02,548 --> 01:13:06,187
Cognitive numbness.

929
01:13:06,228 --> 01:13:08,547
Little by little it enters life.

930
01:13:08,588 --> 01:13:11,507
No one can come to their senses and hold on to life.

931
01:13:12,228 --> 01:13:16,947
And our band is losing inspiration.

932
01:13:16,988 --> 01:13:21,667
Especially since Loveless, it's gotten worse.

933
01:13:21,748 --> 01:13:25,347
After signing with Island, we were in the studio with nothing to do.

934
01:13:25,388 --> 01:13:29,307
I have become a total loser.

935
01:13:29,428 --> 01:13:31,587
I had to do something else.

936
01:13:31,668 --> 01:13:34,827
Give yourself some time. Relax.

937
01:13:34,868 --> 01:13:38,987
Yeah, and then I disappeared for a while.

938
01:13:39,148 --> 01:13:41,347
Kevin is devastated.

939
01:13:41,428 --> 01:13:45,787
We got carried away and got lost.

940
01:13:45,868 --> 01:13:49,627
We need a little change. We have become idiots.

941
01:13:49,708 --> 01:13:54,107
% Incoherent

942
01:13:54,388 --> 01:13:58,587
We are full of shit.

943
01:13:58,668 --> 01:14:00,667
muddled

944
01:14:00,788 --> 01:14:03,347
We never had the right band model.

945
01:14:03,428 --> 01:14:09,107
And it's not good with the record company.

946
01:14:11,668 --> 01:14:14,307
We can't do anything about it.

947
01:14:14,348 --> 01:14:17,427
I'm not good at this kind of stuff.

948
01:14:17,508 --> 01:14:25,507
So it almost collapsed in '94.

949
01:14:25,588 --> 01:14:28,267
It almost dissolved in '95.

950
01:14:30,788 --> 01:14:35,107
The only thing that remains the same is

951
01:14:35,228 --> 01:14:39,827
We never had the passion or the drive.

952
01:14:41,388 --> 01:14:43,827
And the inspiration has run out.

953
01:14:51,148 --> 01:14:54,227
It seems like we're all a little ahead of our time.

954
01:14:54,268 --> 01:14:57,347
So there is no suitable environment or opportunity

955
01:14:57,428 --> 01:15:02,907
While Ride, Slowdive created shoegaze

956
01:15:02,988 --> 01:15:04,867
But no one explores them.

957
01:15:04,948 --> 01:15:08,427
I don't think it matters how many CDs are sold.

958
01:15:08,508 --> 01:15:12,707
It doesn't mean you make good music.

959
01:15:14,908 --> 01:15:19,067
Many bands from the 80s and 90s

960
01:15:19,148 --> 01:15:23,067
All the albums sold poorly.

961
01:15:23,148 --> 01:15:26,427
But they had a huge impact on the development of music

962
01:15:26,508 --> 01:15:31,067
Give new life to music history

963
01:15:34,028 --> 01:15:41,627
Just because their albums sold poorly doesn't mean they weren't successful.

964
01:15:42,148 --> 01:15:46,427
Let's just say they didn't reach their full potential.

965
01:15:46,508 --> 01:15:51,907
If it resonates with the public, it is a success.

966
01:15:51,988 --> 01:15:53,987
Of course they were successful.

967
01:15:54,068 --> 01:15:55,827
If we talk about the impact of music

968
01:15:55,868 --> 01:15:59,707
They must have had a profound impact.

969
01:15:59,828 --> 01:16:03,187
I saw XX in Rolling Stone.

970
01:16:03,268 --> 01:16:05,747
This band sounds like Swervedriver.

971
01:16:05,828 --> 01:16:08,947
I guess Swervedriver has his soulmate.

972
01:16:09,028 --> 01:16:12,307
This looks like it's going to be a footwear renaissance, doesn't it?

973
01:16:12,348 --> 01:16:15,467
These bands are finally waking up.

974
01:16:19,188 --> 01:16:21,547
I don't see Shoegaze continuing.

975
01:16:21,628 --> 01:16:25,867
Ten years are enough.

976
01:16:25,948 --> 01:16:30,467
But it seems to be increasing again in recent years (

977
01:16:30,548 --> 01:16:34,987
Everything has its turn.

978
01:16:35,068 --> 01:16:37,547
These upstarts are gradually establishing themselves.

979
01:16:37,588 --> 01:16:41,187
Like the Pixies before we reorganized.

980
01:16:41,268 --> 01:16:44,587
You can see that it is coming back little by little.

981
01:16:44,668 --> 01:16:47,427
I scare the kids from time to time.

982
01:16:47,508 --> 01:16:49,227
How old are you? Twenty. What is your favorite group?

983
01:16:49,308 --> 01:16:52,547
Ride and Slowdive, of course.

984
01:16:52,628 --> 01:16:54,787
That's great. That's good.

985
01:16:54,868 --> 01:16:58,107
Then I talk to them about the past and the present.

986
01:16:58,148 --> 01:17:02,347
For me it's exciting that these young people like these bands.

987
01:17:02,428 --> 01:17:06,827
It's like when I listened to the Velvet Underground.

988
01:17:07,508 --> 01:17:24,627
Ulrich Schnauss - Today here, tomorrow there

989
01:18:34,767 --> 01:18:39,486
It's a shame they forgot about Mary Jane.

990
01:18:39,527 --> 01:18:41,086
I really like Mary Jane.

991
01:18:41,167 --> 01:18:46,766
Some say we don't make records without all the bureaucracy.

992
01:18:46,847 --> 01:18:51,246
Because Mary Jane's album is one of the best, and there is no one like it.

993
01:18:51,327 --> 01:18:54,406
I think that's a good point.

994
01:18:54,487 --> 01:19:00,366
You are going to be the band that gets the fans to pick up the guitars.

995
01:19:00,447 --> 01:19:02,286
Because it's not easy.

996
01:19:02,367 --> 01:19:04,926
Some bands just do the same thing.

997
01:19:05,007 --> 01:19:08,686
It's only five minutes of presence on stage.

998
01:19:10,767 --> 01:19:13,566
The story continues.

999
01:19:13,607 --> 01:19:16,846
History is a rich storybook

1000
01:19:16,927 --> 01:19:19,086
It's not a book yet.

1001
01:19:19,167 --> 01:19:23,166
A record of what our band has been through.

1002
01:19:23,247 --> 01:19:29,086
There are also many interesting stories and unforgettable experiences

1003
01:19:29,167 --> 01:19:32,486
Many bands do it.

1004
01:19:33,767 --> 01:19:37,766
It's fun playing in a band, really.

1005
01:19:37,847 --> 01:19:41,486
There were setbacks, but we did something worthwhile.

1006
01:19:41,527 --> 01:19:44,286
Has the world gone through terrible machismo?

1007
01:19:44,367 --> 01:19:48,006
But this dangerous bomb has already exploded.

1008
01:19:48,087 --> 01:19:55,086
i.e. murders, intimidation and coercion

1009
01:19:55,127 --> 01:19:58,846
Maybe something else.

1010
01:19:58,927 --> 01:20:02,086
It's like you've run out of fuel.

1011
01:20:02,167 --> 01:20:05,246
Therefore, the MBV can reorganize

1012
01:20:05,327 --> 01:20:09,046
We have sunk more than once, because there is no longer passion.

1013
01:20:09,087 --> 01:20:11,526
But they're all back now.

1014
01:20:15,607 --> 01:20:18,286
I think in pop music

1015
01:20:18,327 --> 01:20:24,166
After a year or two, it happens all the time.

1016
01:20:24,207 --> 01:20:28,126
Some trends merge with each other to create new ones.

1017
01:20:28,207 --> 01:20:30,166
Not in the same city, not in the same club.

1018
01:20:30,207 --> 01:20:32,086
None of this matters.

1019
01:20:32,167 --> 01:20:35,566
A group of people have a chemical reaction to one thing at the same time

1020
01:20:35,647 --> 01:20:37,446
Sparks of gay love.

1021
01:20:37,487 --> 01:20:41,286
And with it came a new style of music.

1022
01:20:41,327 --> 01:20:43,606
That's when the tide began to turn.

1023
01:20:43,647 --> 01:20:44,646
For me.

1024
01:20:46,407 --> 01:20:48,766
The 80s-90s were the last golden age.

1025
01:20:48,767 --> 01:20:50,526
I'm sure of it.

1026
01:20:50,567 --> 01:20:53,846
The good thing about these bands is that

1027
01:20:53,927 --> 01:20:58,326
They keep the music alive.

1028
01:20:58,407 --> 01:21:02,206
Internet also helps a lot

1029
01:21:02,287 --> 01:21:04,406
People were able to discover these bands

1030
01:21:04,487 --> 01:21:08,006
They are at a very, very high level.

1031
01:21:08,087 --> 01:21:12,646
Maybe in 40 or 50 years people will listen to this music again.

1032
01:21:12,687 --> 01:21:14,966
They will continue hitting.

1033
01:21:15,087 --> 01:21:16,366
From a humanistic point of view

1034
01:21:16,407 --> 01:21:19,366
It was a musical revolution that managed to last for years

1035
01:21:19,407 --> 01:21:22,846
He remains a major influence on the current music scene.

1036
01:21:22,927 --> 01:21:27,086
If you ask what musicians do today

1037
01:21:27,127 --> 01:21:31,326
They will talk about the golden years.

1038
01:21:31,407 --> 01:21:34,326
So, basically.

1039
01:21:34,407 --> 01:21:35,886
They have made a name for themselves.

1040
01:21:35,927 --> 01:21:38,406
If they did it simply because

1041
01:21:38,447 --> 01:21:40,406
If I don't get first place, I won't play music.

1042
01:21:41,007 --> 01:21:43,886
There would be no shoegaze.

1043
01:21:43,967 --> 01:21:46,366
You won't remember who was number one when Loveless comes out.

1044
01:21:46,447 --> 01:21:48,086
But Loveless will be remembered for this incredible work.

1045
01:21:48,127 --> 01:21:49,806
That's the difference.

1046
01:21:49,807 --> 01:21:51,606
as far as I'm concerned

1047
01:21:51,767 --> 01:21:54,806
There is no single way to measure success

1048
01:21:55,007 --> 01:22:09,166
My Bloody Valentine Soon